[?]: prommer for Flash cards in S5 and S7

[g_algo]

Hello!
I have to work with some old S5-115U and some S7-300,
some of the S5 have CPUs 945 and 943 with the module 6ES5-308-3UC11 and a small flashcard 6ES5-374-1KH21.

1) I need to buy the prommer to program the flashcards of the S5?
2) And the ones of the S7?
3) it will be enought if I obtain a PG 605U?

Thanks for the Help

[venix]

Hello!

You need a Prommer(it cost about 900euro) and also the STEP 5 software wich has the feature to write those cards.

http://www.ibhsoftec-sps.de/english/Sel ... rommer.htm

Best regards!
Venix

[g_algo]

thanks

I will try to buy the flash prommer and change some eproms for eeproms

EDIT: can I use the field PG 740 for this? i thinks it's cheaper and will have more utilities.

[venix]

You can use any computer with Step 5(for S5 cards) and Step 7(for S7 cards).
I tried on Windows XP with STEP 5 v7.2 and worked without problems.

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Siemens Aktiengesellschaft
SIMATIC S5
Edition 11/2001
S5EPROM for USB prommer
Reference Guide
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Contents
1 General ...............................................................................................................................3
2 Installation.........................................................................................................................3
3 Run Environment / Requirements....................................................................................3
4 Restrictions ........................................................................................................................3
5 Program Description .........................................................................................................4
5.1 File Name ............................................................................................................................5
5.2 Block ...................................................................................................................................5
5.3 Programming Number .........................................................................................................6
5.4 Effect of Module Function Group.........................................................................................7
5.4.1 Loading from program file....................................................................................................7
5.4.2 Loading from binary file .......................................................................................................8
5.4.3 Read ...................................................................................................................................8
5.4.4 Erasing................................................................................................................................8
5.4.5 Directory..............................................................................................................................8
5.4.6 Comparison .........................................................................................................................8
5.4.7 Parameters ..........................................................................................................................8
5.5 Print List Box........................................................................................................................9
5.6 Close...................................................................................................................................9
6 Deinstallation ...................................................................................................................10
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1 General
The program S5EPROM.EXE allows S5EPROM / EEPROM modules and S5 memory cards to be
programmed using the SIMATIC USB-PROMMER.
With this program, you can transfer, compare and read blocks from an S5 program file (*ST.S5D
file) onto SIMATIC S5 modules. Transferring data from a file onto a memory module is also
described as “load” with STEP 5.
The contents of binary files can be transferred onto a module. It is not possible to read binary
files.
2 Installation
On installing the STEP 5 package V7.2, the installation process is automatically run for the
program S5EPROM.
Program file S5EPROM.EXE is then copied into the current STEP 5 systems directory, e.g.
according to C:\STEP5\S5_SYS\S5EPROM.EXE.
A link to the program S5EPROM.EXE is created in your Windows start menu under Start ->
Simatic -> STEP 5. From here, you can easily call up the program S5EPROM.
3 Run Environment / Requirements
The program can run under Windows 95/98/Me or Windows 2000.
For all functions of the program S5EPROM, a SIMATIC USB-PROMMER is necessary,
connected via a USB interface. The SIMATIC USB-Prommer must be installed as a USB device
and connected via the DC 12V power supply cable.
The SIMATIC USB and installation software is not included in the STEP 5 scope of supply.
The SIMATIC USB-Prommer can be ordered as a product under MLFB no.
6ES7 792-0AA00-0XA0.
For the print function, it is assumed that a local printer or a network printer is reliably set up on
your computer's Windows operating system.
To create the STEP 5 program file with S5 blocks, an executable STEP 5 is required in versions
V6.x or V7.x.
4 Restrictions
When a German version of Windows is installed, the program S5EPROM logs on in German.
With all other Windows language versions, the S5EPROM logs on in English.
French, Spanish and Italian are not supported.
System functions that are called by S5EPROM such as 'Print' or 'File Selection' always appear in
the current Windows language, however.
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5 Program Description
The following functions are available:
• Loading S5 blocks into S5 EPROM/EEPROM modules or S5 memory cards (Load) .
• Loading the contents of binary files into EPROM/EEPROM modules (Load).
• Reading S5 blocks from EPROM/EEPROM modules or S5 memory cards and transferring
into an existing preset program file (Read).
• Erasing EEPROM modules or S5 memory cards (Erase).
• Comparing EPROM/EEPROM module contents or S5 memory cards with S5 program file
contents.
• Displaying information on EPROM/EEPROM or S5 memory cards (parameters, directory).
Note
Commentary blocks, documentation blocks and display driver blocks cannot be shot onto the
module.
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5.1 File Name
The path and file name for the data transfer must be entered in the input box "STEP 5 program
file / binary file".
You have two ways of making the entries:
• Entering the path and file name directly, e.g. C:\STEP5\S5_DATEN\S5PROGST.S5D
• Selecting the file by clicking the appropriate button with three dots (…).
Warning
The *.ST.S5D file indicated in the input box must always be present, even with the read
function.
If the data is to be transferred into a new *.ST.S5D file, this file must first be created using the
STEP 5 program. A file without program blocks can be created in STEP 5 by entering e.g. a
display driver block (block type BB) into a new *.ST.S5D file.
5.2 Block
Possible entries include:
Individual block names e.g. PBn,FBn,... (up to 6 individual blocks can be selected)
All blocks of one type e.g.: PB (only one block type in each case can be selected).
All program blocks of the preset S5 program file B
You have two ways of entering the block:
• Entering the above block symbol directly
• Selecting the block by clicking the appropriate button with three dots (…).
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If you wish to line up several individual block names, you must add the block number to the
inserted block type.
Note
Display driver blocks and documentation blocks (block type BB, # and %) cannot be transferred
onto one module.
5.3 Programming Number
Here you have to enter the programming number. This number allows the required S5-
EPROM/EEPROM module or S5 memory card to be identified.
You have two ways of entering this number:
• Enter the number directly
• Click on the appropriate button with three dots (…) to select the number. The assignments
are listed in a list provided with STEP 5. Use the selection box to display this list, which you
can page through. Once you have positioned the cursor on a module in the list and confirmed
this with the acceptance key, the corresponding program number is inserted into the
programming number box.
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Explanatory note on list with programming numbers:
• MLFB number is a module’s order number
• Programming number allows the programming device
to identify the EPROM/EEPROM module or S5 memory card. This number is permanently
assigned to the order number.
• Capacity is the storage capacity of the EPROM/EEPROM module.
Note
Programming number 500 is reserved for SIMATIC memory cards. The loading and testing
sequence is identical to the sequences described in this chapter.
Once you have entered the programming number and confirmed with the START button, an
information module is displayed.
Caution
If you enter an incorrect programming number, this may destroy EPROM/EEPROM modules.
If, for example, you inadvertently only enter 57 instead of 457 as programming number for the
module 6ES5 372-1AA61, the module is destroyed.
5.4 Effect of Module Function Group
All the following functions in each case start with an output of the module information.
They are terminated with the message:
EPROM Check FREE From nnnnnnn
The FREE is thereby the physical end address of the last block in the EPROM/EEPROM module
or S5 memory card.
5.4.1 Loading from program file
Transferring blocks into an EPROM/EEPROM module or S5 memory card. Entries are required
for ’STEP 5 program file name’, ’block’ and ’programming number’.
Note
It is not possible to divide up the program blocks of a *ST.S5D file into several modules. If
module storage capacity is not sufficient for the selected program blocks, programming is
aborted when the first module is full.
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5.4.2 Loading from binary file
Transferring binary data into an EPROM/EEPROM module. Entries are required for ’binary file
name’ and ’programming number’.
5.4.3 Read
Transfer from an EPROM/EEPROM module or an S5 memory card to the selected program file.
Entries are required for ’STEP 5 program file name’, ’block’ and ’programming number’.
5.4.4 Erasing
The erasing process (EEPROMs and S5 memory cards only) is concluded with the message:
Module... End address nnnnnnnn
EPROMs cannot be erased with this program but only with a UV erasing unit.
5.4.5 Directory
Output of directory information via the module set in the EPROM interface. Entries are required
for ’STEP 5 program file name’ and ’programming number’. Where a block field is blank, all blocks
are displayed.
If a block or block head is found, the block list is output on the screen.
Depending on the setting, the output is terminated with the following message:
For one block or a group of blocks:
Block name Length: nnnn Module address: nnnnnnnn
BIB-Nr.: nnnnnnnn
5.4.6 Comparison
Comparison of the S5 blocks stored in the EPROM/EEPROM or S5 memory card with those in
the selected program file. Entries are required for ’STEP 5 program file name’ and ’programming
number’. Where a block field is blank, all blocks are compared.
The result of the comparison is output in the list box. Messages are output during the comparison.
The following messages are displayed if there is any discrepancy in the comparison:
Address The relative block address in the module
Ref. Setpoint (value) = memory contents filed under the relative block address in the program file.
Act. current value = memory contents filed under the relative block address in the
EPROM/EEPROM module.
5.4.7 Parameters
Output of EPROM/EEPROM parameters or S5 memory card on the screen and comparison with
parameter values of the module set in the EPROM interface. When values are equal, the result is
displayed. ’Programming number’ must be entered in order to execute the function.
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5.5 Print List Box
To print, press the button with the same name in the S5EPROM window. The system window
’Print’ appears for the standard printer.
Here you can go on to specify the print request by selecting the pages to be printed or the number
of copies. Start printing with the ’OK’ button.
5.6 Close
Close the S5EPROM program by pressing the ’Cancel’ button in the STEP 5 EPROM
programming window.
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6 Deinstallation
The program S5EPROM is removed from your computer by deinstalling the STEP 5 package.

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Best regards!
Venix

[g_algo]

thanks I asked about the PG because I think that the PGs come with the slots for the cards and a second hand PG will be more useful than the prommer

Warm regard
g_algo