Zenon Editor to OPEN .PRJ file

namchin · Post by **namchin** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:31 pm

Hi Friends,

I have project file for zenon and but dont have anything to open like to edit and open, do you have anything to help me on this matter, we have some machines from Krones Germany and all the programms are made with Zenon, in order to troubleshoot I need to open the project file "which signal triggers which alarm message etc ?"

jimlgb · Post by **jimlgb** » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:18 pm

Hello,namchin
As what I know, Krones has packed Zenon project with its own format to be able to recovery the project easier.

So you should find the related program in the project backup.

Disaipls · Post by **Disaipls** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:17 pm

What you need to fix?
You must be a guarantee for the program, and remote access.

Warri0rs · Post by **Warri0rs** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:57 am

Open witch 7zip

lerossav · Post by **lerossav** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:25 pm

Hello Warri0rs,

I've checked the information of the 7zip unpacker and it doesn't include the files with extension *.prj as part of the recognized files to unpack, do we need to change the extension first to unpack the file? if so, to which extension type?

Thanks a lot for your help!!

Lerossav

pipikikiki · Post by **pipikikiki** » Mon May 02, 2016 9:43 am

Give me the backup file from Krones HMI, I try cover it to Edit file that can open with zenon software.

Best Regards!!!

justain · Post by **justain** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:18 pm

Hello namchin,

PRJ files would be opened normally with Zenon Explorer, a software made by o for Krones only. However you two options to troubleshot a problem on Krones equipment with iPanel.

The first one is that you can see the adress of each tag directly on the screen. For that look at the menu an entry that allows you to do right click on the screen. It is like a virtual mouse that shows on the top left of the screen. Then right click and mantain pressed over any field and it will show you the address of the tag.

The second one is to open the project with Zenon. I have found a demo version on this site. Install it and open in demo mode. Change the PRJ extension to ZIP and decompress the file. There are four more compressed files inside, two with eds extension and two with rtz extension. Change the edz extension of both files to zip. Then open Zenon editor and search for the Restore project backup in the File menu (not restore workspace backup). Execute the action for both files and close the editor. Now you can open the project direct from the .wsp6 project file.

Best regards,
Justain.

yaqui · Post by **yaqui** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:51 pm

Hi
I don´t know if is the same question... but if I have the folder BINARY -> ZenOn -> and custom and system
Inside system, there is project.prj, can I recover the source files?

Thanks advanced

jotataca · Post by **jotataca** » Thu May 04, 2017 5:34 am

Hello,

The prj projects are from HMI of KRONES machines, If you want to extract them you should have a special software what only KRONES AG have.
If you would like to modify this kind of files (prj) I can do it, if you are interested you can send me a private mesage and I can give you a quotation.
Regards!

SHKODRAN · Post by **SHKODRAN** » Wed May 10, 2017 7:53 pm

Here you go!

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=25103

Truong071192 · Post by **Truong071192** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:24 pm

Hi Bro
I come from Viet Nam. Now I'm working with Pasterizer machine of Krones,
can you help me convert 2 files .prj to files which I can open it.
please give me a advice which version of zenon editor software I can open
it. If you have link to download, can you show for me? I'm an new engineer
automation, please help me about this problem. I hope that you'll reply
this email, I really need your help.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/y7oge8z1 ... 9.prj/file

https://www.mediafire.com/file/k8j4a6q6 ... 6.prj/file

Thanks & Best regards!

SHKODRAN · Post by **SHKODRAN** » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:56 am

Here you go.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/if5b1i92v ... s.zip/file
Editor: zenOn V7.0
Runtime: zenOn V6.20 SP1

If you edit these two workspace with zenOn 7.0, you're able to compile the file runtime for 6.20 sp4 that can work wothout problems on Krones HMI,

Regards.

Truong071192 · Post by **Truong071192** » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:15 pm

Thanks you very much.
I want to use HMI for troubleshooting, i don't need modify. can i use runtime for this problem?
Do you have links for Zenon editor v7.0. If you have it. Can i have it?

Truong071192 · Post by **Truong071192** » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:20 pm

I have already download Zenon editor V6.21 from this forum. You can show me how to install this software.
because i don't have links to download Zenon editor V7.0. I can use Zenon editor V6.21 for my project?

SHKODRAN · Post by **SHKODRAN** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:23 pm

Here you go:

Code: Select all

https://rapidgator.net/file/e767056175b15b51cc056d06584f6ab7/Scada700.part5.rar.html
https://rapidgator.net/file/96c1fbed794c8e9dbfcf865373eb9a1c/Scada700.part1.rar.html
https://rapidgator.net/file/86e5994de6fd315c6c2ca1513d654cd2/Scada700.part2.rar.html
https://rapidgator.net/file/9714c1c64244b0f9753a6a674d15af97/Scada700.part7.rar.html
https://rapidgator.net/file/13c467b19095382dae82db68f37b70d5/Scada700.part6.rar.html
https://rapidgator.net/file/8f5c60e08f727710ef406c02563c61fe/Scada700.part3.rar.html
https://rapidgator.net/file/8a52e356db576ec0edd26179133101aa/Scada700.part4.rar.html

Regards.

Jerry44 · Post by **Jerry44** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:41 am

Hi Mr SHKODRAN,
I'm a newbie working with Krones's machine.
I also have the same problem with some guys before in this topic that i want to open the .prj file (as i know that is backup file for Krones's HMI).
If you're not hesitate, pls help me to convert the attacted file to .WSP6 ( using with Zenon v7.1 trial)
Thanks so much.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pj4rhb ... sp=sharing

SHKODRAN · Post by **SHKODRAN** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:06 am

Dear Jerry44,

with trial version of zenOn editor, you can't edit this work space, due to Krones, use macro registered.
Anyway, the second problem, i don't use 7.10, i can restore the project for version 7.60 , 8.00 or 8.10.

Regards.

Toms · Post by **Toms** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:19 am

Help, I need software version 7.6 or higher, please...

uncle007 · Post by **uncle007** » Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:13 pm

Jerry44
if you still need it,
here go:
https://mega.nz/#!QaRjAAgI!OOhkzyCBAQje ... yrVO8b0GBU

Freegruss · Post by **Freegruss** » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:58 pm

In order to upgrade un B&r HMI Power Panel 300 to PPC2100! I will need to actualize software from zenon 6.21 to 7.x! Any expert for this kind of convertion job?

SHKODRAN · Post by **SHKODRAN** » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:44 am

Hi,
Upload your project somewhere, i'll do for you.

Regards.

Jerry44 · Post by **Jerry44** » Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:46 am

Oh, Thanks for your help. I already received the attached file at your link.
Cause i have more .prj file, so if you can, please help teach me how to open it.
Thanks so much.

realac · Post by **realac** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:08 am

Hello,

can you help me convert 2 files .prj to files which I can open it.
please help me about this problem.I really need your help.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Aj_Lq6 ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IDo44w ... sp=sharing
Best regards!

SHKODRAN · Post by **SHKODRAN** » Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:09 pm

Here you can download the workspace's for both files.
Bas & MMA was generated with version 6.20, i don't use this old version, I converted both to 7.00
You can restore edit e do what you want.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/fudj0mdhm ... 0.zip/file
http://www.mediafire.com/file/mnzu8mxdg ... 1.zip/file

ManiaUsman · Post by **ManiaUsman** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:15 pm

Hi
I have zenon 6.22 crack version and zenon 7.0 demo version when i converted RT files of zenon 7.0 to 6.22 SP1 it will convert but when i tried to open in 6.22 it refuses to open and give me error backup could not be restored

thanks

SHKODRAN · Post by **SHKODRAN** » Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:08 pm

From version 6.22 you can convert to version 7.00, but vice versa NO.

ManiaUsman · Post by **ManiaUsman** » Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:54 pm

So what could be the solution i have only licensed version of zenon 6.22 but i dont have zenon 7.00. So anyone have zenon 7.0 crack version?

Jerry44 · Post by **Jerry44** » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:26 am

Sorry for reply late Sir.
Anotherway, Mr Uncle007 and Mr SHKODRAN: For Krones system like PLC S7 or in Zenon software, how can i export all the alarm with PLC address?
Examples, i have an alarm with description abcdef.... and the reference address is DBx.DBBxxx
Thanks you.

SHKODRAN · Post by **SHKODRAN** » Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:09 am

Are you a krones customer? why don't you ask them how they thought about exporting the alarms?
I personally do not have time to follow the krones project to satisfy your requests and waste my time in nothing.

Jerry44 · Post by **Jerry44** » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:15 pm

Dear Sir,
Yes, I'm Krones's customer. I know this is a request maybe internal. I persionally think this forum is open for everyone, so simples i just think i have a hesitate and i want to know and i get a question. Sorry Sir for my inconvenience.

SHKODRAN · Post by **SHKODRAN** » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:27 pm

The forum is open to everyone, everyone will have the answer.
When it comes to developing software, which the people you paid were supposed to do, nobody will be available for free.
You asked to unpack the krones source, you were satisfied, therefore, I would say that the community has done its duty.
You're going beyond limits, that's all.

Jerry44 · Post by **Jerry44** » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:39 pm

Sorry once more time Sir. I don't know that isa fault request. I understood

lebao · Post by **lebao** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:53 am

Hi Truong,

The project file K574117 can open it by Zenon Editor vsersion 6.20 sp1. But this file.prj is Krones' file that you have to use Zenon explorer to extract it

Hope to help you !
Lebao

Melander · Post by **Melander** » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:16 pm

Jerry44 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:26 am Sorry for reply late Sir.
Anotherway, Mr Uncle007 and Mr SHKODRAN: For Krones system like PLC S7 or in Zenon software, how can i export all the alarm with PLC address?
Examples, i have an alarm with description abcdef.... and the reference address is DBx.DBBxxx
Thanks you.

If you only need a list of PLC address for the Alarm it's not necessary to go the long way into the Zenon Editor... (however that can also be done, with a lot of patience!!!).
The simple way of finding the PLC address for an active alarm is to open the alarm (or message) information window on the active HMI... in the right bottom corner should be the PLC address (e.g DB5.DBX148.4 for message 68) Open the S7 manager (this is a Step7 project) and open DB5 (symbolic name MsgBar)
The DB5 contains information on all alarms and warnings, at least the alarm/warning number should be listed.
If you want to know (and even modify) the alarm text, go to \Krones\System\Language\Language editor... the list shown will probably be the German as default. Click the "open folder" icon in the bottom right, and you will be shown the available language files. It's possible to open the one you want into Zenon and edit. When you are finished, save, change language to a different from the one you edited, and back in order for Zenon to read the file again.
However the build in editor is not easy to use... you can export and import the txt files from the HMI \Krones\Data import/export\languages\ they are just txt files easy to edit in notepad, and to import to the HMI after.
Now when you have the PLC DB list and the Text list you can put both into Excel and make the Alarm<->PLC address list you want.

Jerry44 · Post by **Jerry44** » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:30 am

Thank you very much. By exporting the Language from the HMI I have the text file, but as your recommendation, I just have one by one the PLC address for the alarm, not all. So, do you have any solution for this issue? If have, please teach me. Thank you.

Melander · Post by **Melander** » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:34 am

They should all be in the same order as in the text file, so when you have one alarm and find this in the DB you should be able to find them all.

For example:
Alarm 0001 = DB123.DBX123.0
Alarm 0002 = DB123.DBX123.1
Alarm 0003 = DB123.DBX123.2
etc...

When you open the DB in the PLC with the address you found, there should be at least the alarm/warning/message number for every DB address (assuming you have the PLC backup with symbolic data), this number will be the same as in the HMI

Have a great day

Jerry44 · Post by **Jerry44** » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:31 am

Thank you Sir. As I check, the data type for the alarm like below. Examples, I have a message alarm with alarm number: 2001.6311, the alarm text is: Filling valve controller top part group 2 and the reference address is DB63.DBB90 (MSG.AuxVar[8].index)

So I don't know the next alarm message is DB63.DBB92 or not. Haha, sorry for my inconvenience.

90.0 MSG.AuxVar[8].index BYTE B#16#0 B#16#0
91.0 MSG.AuxVar[8].is_active BOOL FALSE FALSE
91.1 MSG.AuxVar[8].is_gone BOOL FALSE FALSE
92.0 MSG.AuxVar[9].index BYTE B#16#0 B#16#0
93.0 MSG.AuxVar[9].is_active BOOL FALSE FALSE

Melander · Post by **Melander** » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:41 pm

Do you have access to the Step7 editor and a backup with symbolic data, and do you know how to use the Step7 editor?
If yes, I suggest you open the DB63 and examine it, it should then become clear.
If you don't have the Step7 editor, or don't know how to use it, you will need help... if you don't have the backup with symbolic data it will be a "little" more complicated...
May I ask for what purpose you need the information? Trouble shooting without the PLC backup with symbolic data, or without knowledge about Siemens Step7 will be virtually impossible as the Krones software coding is anything but simple...

Have a great day

Jerry44 · Post by **Jerry44** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:46 am

Thank you for you reply. Fist of all, my purpose for the question, I wanna monitoring the state of the machine by Internet, cause I have not all time at site.
I have the Step 7 editor and have litte knowledge about it. But on the Step 7 program, It's don't have symbol for alarms. The format of symbol like "F6301_DB_Org".MSG.Fault[8].active"...

alf393 · Post by **alf393** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:03 am

I need to open a .prj Ver. 6.20 SP4 from a KOSME HMI.

Can somebody help me.
I have Zenon Ver 6.21 SP1

alf393 · Post by **alf393** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:07 am

Hi everyone.
I need to edit .prj Ver6.20 SP4. I have managed to download a Demo version 6.21 SP1 but it has been impossible for me to edit it.
They can guide me to solve this issue.
I thank you in advance.

SHKODRAN · Post by **SHKODRAN** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:26 pm

alf393 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:03 am I need to open a .prj Ver. 6.20 SP4 from a KOSME HMI.

Can somebody help me.
I have Zenon Ver 6.21 SP1

Upload your project somewhere anche post the link for download.

Regards.

alf393 · Post by **alf393** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:32 pm

Attached download link.

https://mega.nz/fm/P54GHCyB

Thanks you very much

SHKODRAN · Post by **SHKODRAN** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:39 pm

alf393 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:32 pm Attached download link.

https://mega.nz/fm/P54GHCyB

Thanks you very much

Hello.
I'm not able to download nothing from this link, can you double check?

Thanks.

alf393 · Post by **alf393** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:57 pm

Try this link for yourself.ç:

https://mega.nz/file/asIViQyD#BxFU79Jt2 ... cM7dMvEemw

Thanks you.

SHKODRAN · Post by **SHKODRAN** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:10 pm

alf393 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:57 pm Try this link for yourself.ç:

https://mega.nz/file/asIViQyD#BxFU79Jt2 ... cM7dMvEemw

Thanks you.

Dear,

these are not the project file.
In this folder are the compiled runtime file.
So, you need the zenon project to be able to edit.

alf393 · Post by **alf393** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:52 pm

Dear SHKODRAN,

It´s possible extract list of variables of the runtime project?

That would be enough...

alf393 · Post by **alf393** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:59 pm

Here is the project.

https://mega.nz/file/75YkTbKL#6wCFGVy8b ... AkdV5AEZXQ

SHKODRAN · Post by **SHKODRAN** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:05 pm

alf393 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:59 pm Here is the project.

https://mega.nz/file/75YkTbKL#6wCFGVy8b ... AkdV5AEZXQ

Is not the zenOn projetc.
You have copy the entire folder of wince cf card.

Regards.

lewis · Post by **lewis** » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:25 pm

do anyone have the zenon version 6.20 SP4？please upload, tks